{"messages":[{"id":2224235,"content":"Je vois pas comment cette boîte pourra survivre, selon moi il y a moyen que TES VI et Fallout 5 soient les derniers grand projets de Bethesda.<div><br></div><div>Pour rappel:</div><div><br></div><div>- Dernier Fallout principal sorti il y a <b>11 ans</b></div><div>- Dernier Elder Scrolls principal sorti il y a <b>15 ans</b></div><div>- Fallout 76 humilié et insulté à sa sortie en raison de son état lamentable.</div><div>- Starfield qui est un échec critique malgré son succès commercial (6,8/10 sur Metacritic; 63% sur Steam; 12,8/20 sur JVC) alors que ça devait être le bébé de Bethesda, longtemps désiré par Todd Howard et considéré comme un projet par passion.</div><div>-&nbsp;Asha Sharma qui confie le prochain Fallout à Obsidian +&nbsp; vague massive de licenciements chez Zenimax / Bethesda.</div><div><br></div><div>Avec tout ça on peut mettre de côté la licence Starfield (dont tout le monde se fout) et se concentrer sur les Fallout et Elder Scrolls.</div><div><br></div><div>- Elder Scrolls -</div><div>les meilleurs jeux de cette licence sont Daggerfall, Morrowind et Skyrim qui ont respectivement 30 ans, 24 ans et 15 ans, on constate une grande baisse en qualité après Morrowind, gameplay faible,\n\ndestruction de lore précédemment établi, moins de lore ajouté par jeu, dialogues simplistes, le ton est de plus en plus grand public, Daggerfall et Morrowind étaient bien plus crus.</div><div><img src=\"https://pub-edb0c2460d754c5eb19e4f23b232496e.r2.dev/c335d85d-b7ec-4f95-88fc-8b64c4a20c54.jpeg\" alt=\"blob:https://village.cx/0dd660f6-0aef-429c-b7ae-c317d994517c\" class=\"picture\" width=\"1197\" height=\"1098\"></div><div>(Bethesda a déjà faillir faire banqueroute en 97-98 à cause de Battlespire et de Redguard qui ont été d'énormes échecs)</div><div><br></div><div>- Fallout -</div><div>Sans avoir joué aux deux premiers Fallout, je me suis intéressée à leur Lore et je pense saisir à peu près le ton de l'univers, c'est un univers très intéressant qui pourrait être bien mieux exploité. Globalement les Fallout de Bethesda sont des déceptions (le 3, 4 et 76) les jeux deviennent de plus en plus comiques / délirants dans le mauvais sens. Fallout 1 et 2 étaient déjà comiques / délirants mais pas du tout de cette manière. Avec Fallout 76 on a un festival de l'absurde, une explosion de couleurs flashy, des mutants toujours plus étranges, un nombre démesuré de \"cryptides\" (créatures fantastiques / surnaturelles), c'est à deux doigts de devenir Borderlands.</div><div><br></div><div><img src=\"https://pub-edb0c2460d754c5eb19e4f23b232496e.r2.dev/a7ee9f5b-7f30-480d-abb4-e861f45decfb.jpeg\" alt=\"blob:https://village.cx/09a4f45f-84e3-4417-8383-fe6ac261dc30\" class=\"picture\" width=\"640\" height=\"480\"><img src=\"https://pub-edb0c2460d754c5eb19e4f23b232496e.r2.dev/2ceeecd2-8494-4867-90e7-7d5581372fc6.png\" alt=\"blob:https://village.cx/7e54bb7b-c559-4a69-96f7-6b35933ae969\" class=\"picture\" width=\"2397\" height=\"1343\"></div><div><br></div><div>Franchement ce genre de visuels ça me fait penser à des visuels pour les simpsons ou futurama quoi....<br><br></div><div><img src=\"https://pub-edb0c2460d754c5eb19e4f23b232496e.r2.dev/d6647f2a-9dc7-41e5-84bc-5cf5f0ce882d.png\" alt=\"blob:https://village.cx/9f0fcd88-e6a5-443f-ad9f-1b6e870d5002\" class=\"picture\" width=\"1637\" height=\"936\"><img src=\"https://pub-edb0c2460d754c5eb19e4f23b232496e.r2.dev/ab429eb8-b3cc-4f7c-9257-d82ea919ff5e.png\" alt=\"blob:https://village.cx/a4a4f4ba-742e-4b45-a5d5-c3a136676401\" class=\"picture\" width=\"722\" height=\"1071\"></div><div>Affiche promotionnelle pour Fallout 1:<br><img src=\"https://pub-edb0c2460d754c5eb19e4f23b232496e.r2.dev/2dc9f4da-9039-4e9b-9049-786044189e90.jpeg\" alt=\"blob:https://village.cx/00784a78-c517-4bdd-b8d2-d6a0aff45c84\" class=\"picture\" width=\"1400\" height=\"1916\"></div><div><br></div><div>Je ne pense pas que ce que cherche à faire Bethesda marchera sur le long terme, je pense qu'ils détruisent petit à petit leurs 2 seules licences et ce depuis 20 ans déjà.</div><div><br></div>","originalContent":null,"files":["c335d85d-b7ec-4f95-88fc-8b64c4a20c54.jpeg","a7ee9f5b-7f30-480d-abb4-e861f45decfb.jpeg","2ceeecd2-8494-4867-90e7-7d5581372fc6.png","d6647f2a-9dc7-41e5-84bc-5cf5f0ce882d.png","ab429eb8-b3cc-4f7c-9257-d82ea919ff5e.png","2dc9f4da-9039-4e9b-9049-786044189e90.jpeg"],"villageId":"village","topic":{"id":126645,"title":"La déchéance de Bethesda","slug":"la-decheance-de-bethesda","messagesCount":13,"villageId":"village"},"user":{"id":"cb65be36-5e97-4104-9354-da95e0454737","username":"Alexia","avatar":"e910f197-a59d-43ba-b92d-e1d68fc5a69d.png","villages_members":[{"userId":"cb65be36-5e97-4104-9354-da95e0454737","villageId":"village","points":3798,"kickedUntil":null,"disabled":false,"emoji":null}],"groups_members":[{"group":{"id":386,"name":"Clan des soeurs ","icon":"03264c87-3a26-4e5c-9f39-64eec31cd600.jpeg"}}]},"reactions":[],"createdAt":"2026-07-27T20:09:15.642Z","updatedAt":null,"deleted":false,"first":true,"updater":null,"repliedMessageId":null,"repliedMessage":null,"embeds":[],"poll":null,"rawContent":"Je vois pas comment cette boîte pourra survivre, selon moi il y a moyen que TES VI et Fallout 5 soient les derniers grand projets de Bethesda.<div><br /></div><div>Pour rappel:</div><div><br /></div><div>- Dernier Fallout principal sorti il y a <b>11 ans</b></div><div>- Dernier Elder Scrolls principal sorti il y a <b>15 ans</b></div><div>- Fallout 76 humilié et insulté à sa sortie en raison de son état lamentable.</div><div>- Starfield qui est un échec critique malgré son succès commercial (6,8/10 sur Metacritic; 63% sur Steam; 12,8/20 sur JVC) alors que ça devait être le bébé de Bethesda, longtemps désiré par Todd Howard et considéré comme un projet par passion.</div><div>- Asha Sharma qui confie le prochain Fallout à Obsidian +  vague massive de licenciements chez Zenimax / Bethesda.</div><div><br /></div><div>Avec tout ça on peut mettre de côté la licence Starfield (dont tout le monde se fout) et se concentrer sur les Fallout et Elder Scrolls.</div><div><br /></div><div>- Elder Scrolls -</div><div>les meilleurs jeux de cette licence sont Daggerfall, Morrowind et Skyrim qui ont respectivement 30 ans, 24 ans et 15 ans, on constate une grande baisse en qualité après Morrowind, gameplay faible,\n\ndestruction de lore précédemment établi, moins de lore ajouté par jeu, dialogues simplistes, le ton est de plus en plus grand public, Daggerfall et Morrowind étaient bien plus crus.</div><div><img src=\"https://pub-edb0c2460d754c5eb19e4f23b232496e.r2.dev/c335d85d-b7ec-4f95-88fc-8b64c4a20c54.jpeg\" alt=\"blob:https://village.cx/0dd660f6-0aef-429c-b7ae-c317d994517c\" class=\"picture\" width=\"1197\" height=\"1098\" /></div><div>(Bethesda a déjà faillir faire banqueroute en 97-98 à cause de Battlespire et de Redguard qui ont été d'énormes échecs)</div><div><br /></div><div>- Fallout -</div><div>Sans avoir joué aux deux premiers Fallout, je me suis intéressée à leur Lore et je pense saisir à peu près le ton de l'univers, c'est un univers très intéressant qui pourrait être bien mieux exploité. Globalement les Fallout de Bethesda sont des déceptions (le 3, 4 et 76) les jeux deviennent de plus en plus comiques / délirants dans le mauvais sens. Fallout 1 et 2 étaient déjà comiques / délirants mais pas du tout de cette manière. Avec Fallout 76 on a un festival de l'absurde, une explosion de couleurs flashy, des mutants toujours plus étranges, un nombre démesuré de \"cryptides\" (créatures fantastiques / surnaturelles), c'est à deux doigts de devenir Borderlands.</div><div><br /></div><div><img src=\"https://pub-edb0c2460d754c5eb19e4f23b232496e.r2.dev/a7ee9f5b-7f30-480d-abb4-e861f45decfb.jpeg\" alt=\"blob:https://village.cx/09a4f45f-84e3-4417-8383-fe6ac261dc30\" class=\"picture\" width=\"640\" height=\"480\" /><img src=\"https://pub-edb0c2460d754c5eb19e4f23b232496e.r2.dev/2ceeecd2-8494-4867-90e7-7d5581372fc6.png\" alt=\"blob:https://village.cx/7e54bb7b-c559-4a69-96f7-6b35933ae969\" class=\"picture\" width=\"2397\" height=\"1343\" /></div><div><br /></div><div>Franchement ce genre de visuels ça me fait penser à des visuels pour les simpsons ou futurama quoi....<br /><br /></div><div><img src=\"https://pub-edb0c2460d754c5eb19e4f23b232496e.r2.dev/d6647f2a-9dc7-41e5-84bc-5cf5f0ce882d.png\" alt=\"blob:https://village.cx/9f0fcd88-e6a5-443f-ad9f-1b6e870d5002\" class=\"picture\" width=\"1637\" height=\"936\" /><img src=\"https://pub-edb0c2460d754c5eb19e4f23b232496e.r2.dev/ab429eb8-b3cc-4f7c-9257-d82ea919ff5e.png\" alt=\"blob:https://village.cx/a4a4f4ba-742e-4b45-a5d5-c3a136676401\" class=\"picture\" width=\"722\" height=\"1071\" /></div><div>Affiche promotionnelle pour Fallout 1:<br /><img src=\"https://pub-edb0c2460d754c5eb19e4f23b232496e.r2.dev/2dc9f4da-9039-4e9b-9049-786044189e90.jpeg\" alt=\"blob:https://village.cx/00784a78-c517-4bdd-b8d2-d6a0aff45c84\" class=\"picture\" width=\"1400\" height=\"1916\" /></div><div><br /></div><div>Je ne pense pas que ce que cherche à faire Bethesda marchera sur le long terme, je pense qu'ils détruisent petit à petit leurs 2 seules licences et ce depuis 20 ans déjà.</div><div><br /></div>"},{"id":2224236,"content":"Je veux juste te bouffer le cul 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