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Joktan.&nbsp;</div><div>&nbsp;Almodad, Sheleph, Hazarmaveth, Jerah,&nbsp;Hadoram, Uzal, Diklah, Obal, Abimael, Sheba,&nbsp;Ophir, Havilah, Jobab</div><div><br></div><div>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</div><div><br></div><div>Libu = Lybiens</div><div>Gimirri = Cimmériens</div><div>Ishkuza = Scythes</div>","originalContent":null,"files":[],"villageId":"village","topic":{"id":131995,"title":"nations","slug":"nations","messagesCount":35,"villageId":"village"},"user":{"id":"37cf6e2f-cea6-42c2-b55b-befd77717601","username":"Temoin2jehovah","avatar":"05794663-5a10-47fc-94d7-30f4620d7744.jpeg","villages_members":[{"userId":"37cf6e2f-cea6-42c2-b55b-befd77717601","villageId":"village","points":4723,"kickedUntil":"2026-02-06T12:15:58.759Z","disabled":false,"emoji":null}],"groups_members":[{"group":{"id":274,"name":"Syndicat des 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/></div><div>  Shem </div><div>Elam, Asshur, Arpachshad, Lud, and Aram. </div><div> Uz, Hul, Gether, and Mash. </div><div> Shelah;  Eber. </div><div> Peleg, Joktan. </div><div> Almodad, Sheleph, Hazarmaveth, Jerah, Hadoram, Uzal, Diklah, Obal, Abimael, Sheba, Ophir, Havilah, Jobab</div><div><br /></div><div>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------</div><div><br /></div><div>Libu = Lybiens</div><div>Gimirri = Cimmériens</div><div>Ishkuza = Scythes</div>"},{"id":2310780,"content":"et l'homme de néandertal dans tout ça?&nbsp;<img src=\"https://risibank.fr/cache/medias/0/1/118/11825/full.png\" alt=\"https://risibank.fr/cache/medias/0/1/118/11825/full.png\" data-id=\"11825\" width=\"64\" height=\"48\" 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Je ne les considère pas comme une espèce à part entière d'homo sapiens. 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Selon les théories, les Celtes seraient les descendants de Gomer&nbsp;<img src=\"https://risibank.fr/cache/medias/0/8/806/80625/full.png\" alt=\"https://risibank.fr/cache/medias/0/8/806/80625/full.png\" data-id=\"80625\" width=\"64\" height=\"48\" class=\"sticker\">&nbsp;","originalContent":null,"files":[],"villageId":"village","topic":{"id":131995,"title":"nations","slug":"nations","messagesCount":35,"villageId":"village"},"user":{"id":"37cf6e2f-cea6-42c2-b55b-befd77717601","username":"Temoin2jehovah","avatar":"05794663-5a10-47fc-94d7-30f4620d7744.jpeg","villages_members":[{"userId":"37cf6e2f-cea6-42c2-b55b-befd77717601","villageId":"village","points":4723,"kickedUntil":"2026-02-06T12:15:58.759Z","disabled":false,"emoji":null}],"groups_members":[{"group":{"id":274,"name":"Syndicat des Poires","icon":"fab60b39-2325-4837-8a79-625b7421e947.jpeg"}}]},"reactions":[],"createdAt":"2026-08-21T08:21:04.134Z","updatedAt":null,"deleted":false,"first":false,"updater":null,"repliedMessageId":2310781,"repliedMessage":{"id":2310781,"content":"Sont où les gascons","user":{"id":"4dfdccf6-da4d-484c-86b9-d847bf40d5ee","username":"EvilGascon","avatar":"0daa68ea-d3d3-4921-a1e7-6a3bf2c97980.png"}},"embeds":[],"poll":null,"rawContent":"Le Gascon est une langue indo-européenne donc descendants de Japheth. 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Selon les théories, les Celtes seraient les descendants de Gomer <img src=\"https://risibank.fr/cache/medias/0/8/806/80625/full.png\" alt=\"https://risibank.fr/cache/medias/0/8/806/80625/full.png\" data-id=\"80625\" width=\"64\" height=\"48\" class=\"sticker\" /> ","user":{"id":"37cf6e2f-cea6-42c2-b55b-befd77717601","username":"Temoin2jehovah","avatar":"05794663-5a10-47fc-94d7-30f4620d7744.jpeg"}},"embeds":[],"poll":null,"rawContent":"Pourquoi tu me talk des celtes <img src=\"https://pub-edb0c2460d754c5eb19e4f23b232496e.r2.dev/81562738-88ad-4b59-a6c3-36e7676ec0c3.png\" alt=\"PommeAssis\" data-id=\"373355\" width=\"64\" height=\"48\" class=\"sticker\" />"},{"id":2310792,"content":"Parce qu'en général ils vivaient sur le territoire français. 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