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Il faut imaginer la matière comme le sol d'un bâtiment et la conscience pure (pensée, imagination) le plafond.

L'âme est la colonne, individualisée dans sa forme et s'étendant sur toute la hauteur entre les deux, le pont fusionnant la matière et la pure conscience, englobant les différents corps qui la traversent, du plafond vers le sol.

\n\n\nConscience pure (le plafond lui-même) -> émotion, ressenti (le champ de l'âme proprement dit) -> lumière, électricité, plasma -> matière, atomes (le sol)


Le fluide, la substance unique de l'univers, est le bâtiment entier, réparti en différentes densités.

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Il faut imaginer la matière comme le sol d'un bâtiment et la conscience pure (pensée, imagination) le plafond.

L'âme est la colonne, individualisée dans sa forme et s'étendant sur toute la hauteur entre les deux, le pont fusionnant la matière et la pure conscience, englobant les différents corps qui la traversent, du plafond vers le sol.

\n\n\nConscience pure (le plafond lui-même) -> émotion, ressenti (le champ de l'âme proprement dit) -> lumière, électricité, plasma -> matière, atomes (le sol)


Le fluide, la substance unique de l'univers, est le bâtiment entier, réparti en différentes densités.

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L'âme a un sens large : la conscience individualisée dans le fluide, siégeant dans un corps.
 Et un sens étroit : les émotions, le ressenti, qui, sans qu'on y prête attention, donnent l'expression \" sans âme/ golem / bot etc\"
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L'âme a un sens large : la conscience individualisée dans le fluide, siégeant dans un corps.
 Et un sens étroit : les émotions, le ressenti, qui, sans qu'on y prête attention, donnent l'expression \" sans âme/ golem / bot etc\"
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Mais c'est un peu le même truc du coup \"https://risibank.fr/cache/medias/0/1/118/11825/full.png\"
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Mais c'est un peu le même truc du coup \"https://risibank.fr/cache/medias/0/1/118/11825/full.png\"
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Mais c'est un peu le même truc du coup \"https://risibank.fr/cache/medias/0/1/118/11825/full.png\"
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Ok. Alors t'es un robot qui croit ressentir des trucs ou y'a vraiment personne dedans?

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Ok. Alors t'es un robot qui croit ressentir des trucs ou y'a vraiment personne dedans?

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Pas d’une âme \"https://risibank.fr/cache/medias/0/8/866/86622/full.png\"
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Ok. Alors t'es un robot qui croit ressentir des trucs ou y'a vraiment personne dedans?

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