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Tu dilues la vérité dans un marasme en disant juste aliénateur, c'est terriblement vague et inconséquent de dénoncer \"des aliénateurs\"","originalContent":null,"files":[],"villageId":"village","topic":{"id":139837,"title":"Ce message est il abstrait ?","slug":"ce-message-est-il-abstrait","messagesCount":39,"villageId":"village"},"user":{"id":"f0e75f5b-b524-49ef-ad09-bf086451bf49","username":"Sashimimaru","avatar":"afe20315-f988-4564-9940-9184d7646863.jpeg","villages_members":[{"userId":"f0e75f5b-b524-49ef-ad09-bf086451bf49","villageId":"village","points":41673,"kickedUntil":null,"disabled":false,"emoji":{"code":"snake","url":"https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/jdecked/twemoji@15.1.0/assets/72x72/1f40d.png","surrogates":"🐍"}}],"groups_members":[{"group":{"id":58,"name":"Illuminés cosmiques","icon":"bbfd6fb6-de3d-42e8-b0f5-cba517435c54.jpeg"}}]},"reactions":[],"createdAt":"2026-10-01T16:35:19.295Z","updatedAt":null,"deleted":false,"first":false,"updater":null,"repliedMessageId":2452951,"repliedMessage":{"id":2452951,"content":"Aliénateur = concret<div>aliéné = concret</div><div>classe = abstrait</div><div><br /></div><div>Il y a de l'abstraction, le vocabulaire n'est pas évident, un aliénateur ou un aliéné ont des qualités discrètes, mais je dirais que le message est relativement concret <img src=\"https://risibank.fr/cache/medias/0/1/118/11825/full.png\" alt=\"https://risibank.fr/cache/medias/0/1/118/11825/full.png\" data-id=\"11825\" width=\"64\" height=\"48\" class=\"sticker\" /></div>","user":{"id":"260c0baa-7130-4442-97d9-8a43901ecf6c","username":"Kant","avatar":"644b1d0c-6689-43e8-acb1-be7417d109f5.webp"}},"mentions":[],"embeds":[],"poll":null,"rawContent":"En quoi c'est concret ? Tu dilues la vérité dans un marasme en disant juste aliénateur, c'est terriblement vague et inconséquent de dénoncer \"des aliénateurs\""},{"id":2452959,"content":"C'est terriblement vague et inconséquent de défendre \"les aliénés\"","originalContent":null,"files":[],"villageId":"village","topic":{"id":139837,"title":"Ce message est il abstrait ?","slug":"ce-message-est-il-abstrait","messagesCount":39,"villageId":"village"},"user":{"id":"f0e75f5b-b524-49ef-ad09-bf086451bf49","username":"Sashimimaru","avatar":"afe20315-f988-4564-9940-9184d7646863.jpeg","villages_members":[{"userId":"f0e75f5b-b524-49ef-ad09-bf086451bf49","villageId":"village","points":41673,"kickedUntil":null,"disabled":false,"emoji":{"code":"snake","url":"https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/jdecked/twemoji@15.1.0/assets/72x72/1f40d.png","surrogates":"🐍"}}],"groups_members":[{"group":{"id":58,"name":"Illuminés cosmiques","icon":"bbfd6fb6-de3d-42e8-b0f5-cba517435c54.jpeg"}}]},"reactions":[],"createdAt":"2026-10-01T16:35:54.434Z","updatedAt":null,"deleted":false,"first":false,"updater":null,"repliedMessageId":null,"repliedMessage":null,"mentions":[],"embeds":[],"poll":null,"rawContent":"C'est terriblement vague et inconséquent de défendre \"les aliénés\""},{"id":2452962,"content":"aliénateur = quelqu'un ayant la fonction d'aliéner, aliéner = action<div>Si je te dis un cuisinier, c'est un mot relativement concret, c'est un homme qui a une qualité discrète, on ne voit pas au premier coup d'oeil qu'il est cuisinier, mais ça reste du concret, une fonction. <img src=\"https://pub-edb0c2460d754c5eb19e4f23b232496e.r2.dev/9bf05b65-d806-415d-85ed-ea891151f03e.png\" alt=\"chat lunettes\" data-id=\"372012\" width=\"64\" height=\"48\" class=\"sticker\" /></div>","originalContent":null,"files":[],"villageId":"village","topic":{"id":139837,"title":"Ce message est il abstrait ?","slug":"ce-message-est-il-abstrait","messagesCount":39,"villageId":"village"},"user":{"id":"260c0baa-7130-4442-97d9-8a43901ecf6c","username":"Kant","avatar":"644b1d0c-6689-43e8-acb1-be7417d109f5.webp","villages_members":[{"userId":"260c0baa-7130-4442-97d9-8a43901ecf6c","villageId":"village","points":21450,"kickedUntil":null,"disabled":false,"emoji":{"code":"Jew","url":"https://pub-edb0c2460d754c5eb19e4f23b232496e.r2.dev/508689b7-9bc3-48aa-ba32-1ba307465acc.gif","surrogates":":village_Jew_1785524086165:"}}],"groups_members":[{"group":{"id":251,"name":"Exilés","icon":"f270546c-fb81-47b3-a9f4-7e23742e07a4.png"}},{"group":{"id":274,"name":"Syndicat des hamtaros","icon":"45ba0790-5bc8-4add-ba0b-7de688fb876a.jpeg"}}]},"reactions":[],"createdAt":"2026-10-01T16:36:34.549Z","updatedAt":null,"deleted":false,"first":false,"updater":null,"repliedMessageId":2452957,"repliedMessage":{"id":2452957,"content":"En quoi c'est concret ? Tu dilues la vérité dans un marasme en disant juste aliénateur, c'est terriblement vague et inconséquent de dénoncer \"des aliénateurs\"","user":{"id":"f0e75f5b-b524-49ef-ad09-bf086451bf49","username":"Sashimimaru","avatar":"afe20315-f988-4564-9940-9184d7646863.jpeg"}},"mentions":[],"embeds":[],"poll":null,"rawContent":"aliénateur = quelqu'un ayant la fonction d'aliéner, aliéner = action<div>Si je te dis un cuisinier, c'est un mot relativement concret, c'est un homme qui a une qualité discrète, on ne voit pas au premier coup d'oeil qu'il est cuisinier, mais ça reste du concret, une fonction. <img src=\"https://pub-edb0c2460d754c5eb19e4f23b232496e.r2.dev/9bf05b65-d806-415d-85ed-ea891151f03e.png\" alt=\"chat lunettes\" data-id=\"372012\" width=\"64\" height=\"48\" class=\"sticker\" /></div>"},{"id":2452963,"content":"Alors c'est une histoire de contexte <img src=\"https://pub-edb0c2460d754c5eb19e4f23b232496e.r2.dev/fc79db8e-0c5f-41c9-b869-71d95f074a0f.png\" alt=\"aizen\" data-id=\"373576\" width=\"64\" height=\"48\" class=\"sticker\" />","originalContent":null,"files":[],"villageId":"village","topic":{"id":139837,"title":"Ce message est il abstrait ?","slug":"ce-message-est-il-abstrait","messagesCount":39,"villageId":"village"},"user":{"id":"f0e75f5b-b524-49ef-ad09-bf086451bf49","username":"Sashimimaru","avatar":"afe20315-f988-4564-9940-9184d7646863.jpeg","villages_members":[{"userId":"f0e75f5b-b524-49ef-ad09-bf086451bf49","villageId":"village","points":41673,"kickedUntil":null,"disabled":false,"emoji":{"code":"snake","url":"https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/jdecked/twemoji@15.1.0/assets/72x72/1f40d.png","surrogates":"🐍"}}],"groups_members":[{"group":{"id":58,"name":"Illuminés cosmiques","icon":"bbfd6fb6-de3d-42e8-b0f5-cba517435c54.jpeg"}}]},"reactions":[],"createdAt":"2026-10-01T16:38:55.457Z","updatedAt":null,"deleted":false,"first":false,"updater":null,"repliedMessageId":null,"repliedMessage":null,"mentions":[],"embeds":[],"poll":null,"rawContent":"Alors c'est une histoire de contexte <img src=\"https://pub-edb0c2460d754c5eb19e4f23b232496e.r2.dev/fc79db8e-0c5f-41c9-b869-71d95f074a0f.png\" alt=\"aizen\" data-id=\"373576\" width=\"64\" height=\"48\" class=\"sticker\" />"},{"id":2452964,"content":"Un peu comme si on découvrait que quelqu'un avait découvert qu'on avait servi une horreur absolue à quelqu'un, et que l'enquêteur répondait, \"c'est un cuisinier qui a fait ça\", du coup moi je lis ça, je dis que c'est abstrait","originalContent":null,"files":[],"villageId":"village","topic":{"id":139837,"title":"Ce message est il abstrait ?","slug":"ce-message-est-il-abstrait","messagesCount":39,"villageId":"village"},"user":{"id":"f0e75f5b-b524-49ef-ad09-bf086451bf49","username":"Sashimimaru","avatar":"afe20315-f988-4564-9940-9184d7646863.jpeg","villages_members":[{"userId":"f0e75f5b-b524-49ef-ad09-bf086451bf49","villageId":"village","points":41673,"kickedUntil":null,"disabled":false,"emoji":{"code":"snake","url":"https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/jdecked/twemoji@15.1.0/assets/72x72/1f40d.png","surrogates":"🐍"}}],"groups_members":[{"group":{"id":58,"name":"Illuminés cosmiques","icon":"bbfd6fb6-de3d-42e8-b0f5-cba517435c54.jpeg"}}]},"reactions":[],"createdAt":"2026-10-01T16:40:35.212Z","updatedAt":null,"deleted":false,"first":false,"updater":null,"repliedMessageId":null,"repliedMessage":null,"mentions":[],"embeds":[],"poll":null,"rawContent":"Un peu comme si on découvrait que quelqu'un avait découvert qu'on avait servi une horreur absolue à quelqu'un, et que l'enquêteur répondait, \"c'est un cuisinier qui a fait ça\", du coup moi je lis ça, je dis que c'est abstrait"},{"id":2452965,"content":"Non, c'est simplement une affaire de réel. Ce qui est abstrait n'existe qu'à l'état de virtualité, une classe, c'est une abstraction pour rentrer plusieurs êtres différents dans une catégorie, la classe n'existe pas. ","originalContent":null,"files":[],"villageId":"village","topic":{"id":139837,"title":"Ce message est il abstrait ?","slug":"ce-message-est-il-abstrait","messagesCount":39,"villageId":"village"},"user":{"id":"260c0baa-7130-4442-97d9-8a43901ecf6c","username":"Kant","avatar":"644b1d0c-6689-43e8-acb1-be7417d109f5.webp","villages_members":[{"userId":"260c0baa-7130-4442-97d9-8a43901ecf6c","villageId":"village","points":21450,"kickedUntil":null,"disabled":false,"emoji":{"code":"Jew","url":"https://pub-edb0c2460d754c5eb19e4f23b232496e.r2.dev/508689b7-9bc3-48aa-ba32-1ba307465acc.gif","surrogates":":village_Jew_1785524086165:"}}],"groups_members":[{"group":{"id":251,"name":"Exilés","icon":"f270546c-fb81-47b3-a9f4-7e23742e07a4.png"}},{"group":{"id":274,"name":"Syndicat des hamtaros","icon":"45ba0790-5bc8-4add-ba0b-7de688fb876a.jpeg"}}]},"reactions":[],"createdAt":"2026-10-01T16:40:35.288Z","updatedAt":null,"deleted":false,"first":false,"updater":null,"repliedMessageId":2452963,"repliedMessage":{"id":2452963,"content":"Alors c'est une histoire de contexte <img src=\"https://pub-edb0c2460d754c5eb19e4f23b232496e.r2.dev/fc79db8e-0c5f-41c9-b869-71d95f074a0f.png\" alt=\"aizen\" data-id=\"373576\" width=\"64\" height=\"48\" class=\"sticker\" />","user":{"id":"f0e75f5b-b524-49ef-ad09-bf086451bf49","username":"Sashimimaru","avatar":"afe20315-f988-4564-9940-9184d7646863.jpeg"}},"mentions":[],"embeds":[],"poll":null,"rawContent":"Non, c'est simplement une affaire de réel. 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