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Ils arrivent près du village où les disciples devaient aller. Jésus fait semblant d’aller plus loin.


Faire semblant= mentir par des gestes, adopter une attitude en vue de tromper quelqu'un 


@Kant @Temoin2Jehovah @Siobhan 


Game over pour Jésus 

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Ils arrivent près du village où les disciples devaient aller. Jésus fait semblant d’aller plus loin.


Faire semblant= mentir par des gestes, adopter une attitude en vue de tromper quelqu'un 


@Kant @Temoin2Jehovah 


Game over pour Jésus 

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Ils arrivent près du village où les disciples devaient aller. Jésus fait semblant d’aller plus loin.


Faire semblant= mentir par des gestes, adopter une attitude en vue de tromper quelqu'un 


@Kant @Temoin2Jehovah @Siobhan 


Game over pour Jésus 

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Ils arrivent près du village où les disciples devaient aller. Jésus fait semblant d’aller plus loin.


Faire semblant= mentir par des gestes, adopter une attitude en vue de tromper quelqu'un 


@Kant @Temoin2Jehovah @Siobhan 


Game over pour Jésus 

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Pas si étonnant et d'ailleurs je suis choqué que toi (Epique genre le débilos qui croit que les pyramides maîtrisaient l'électricité) l'ait vu \"https://risibank.fr/cache/medias/0/1/187/18707/full.png\"

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Pas si étonnant et d'ailleurs je suis choqué que toi (Epique genre le débilos qui croit que les pyramides maîtrisaient l'électricité) l'ait vu \"https://risibank.fr/cache/medias/0/1/187/18707/full.png\"

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Où est la logique là-dedans ?","start":33.84},{"end":40.18,"text":"Donc, soit logique.","start":37.84},{"end":40.68,"text":"En fait,","start":40.34},{"end":43.84,"text":"vous allez juste dans le sens contraire","start":41.68},{"end":45.28,"text":"de la vérité, c'est tout.","start":43.84},{"end":48.32,"text":"Moi, je vous montre que votre Jésus, c'est un mensonge.","start":45.96},{"end":49.84,"text":"Mais vous voulez toujours aller","start":48.82},{"end":52.14,"text":"dans le sens du mensonge, va dans le sens du mensonge.","start":49.84},{"end":52.92,"text":"Ce n'est pas mon problème.","start":52.28},{"end":55.44,"text":"va suivre tes têtes qui font semblant","start":52.92}]}}],"villageId":"village","topic":{"id":142700,"title":"Jésus est un menteur selon la bible ","slug":"jesus-est-un-menteur-selon-la-bible","messagesCount":39,"villageId":"village"},"user":{"id":"f61cd4a9-29d5-4734-9152-a7248ae3ec2d","username":"Epique","avatar":"009098fc-27c9-4195-8fff-bb55de9e2e7f.jpeg","villages_members":[{"userId":"f61cd4a9-29d5-4734-9152-a7248ae3ec2d","villageId":"village","points":10907,"kickedUntil":"2026-07-19T14:21:26.529Z","disabled":false,"emoji":{"code":"izan","url":"https://pub-edb0c2460d754c5eb19e4f23b232496e.r2.dev/622baad6-add0-4456-add5-0640226724eb.gif","surrogates":":village_izan_1785532798878:"}}],"groups_members":[{"group":{"id":429,"name":"Egypte Ancestrale","icon":"f66a98e1-62ff-4264-9e5a-56c04cf94f6f.jpeg"}}]},"reactions":[],"createdAt":"2026-10-16T11:22:03.846Z","updatedAt":null,"deleted":false,"first":false,"updater":null,"repliedMessageId":2499763,"repliedMessage":{"id":2499763,"content":"0:18","user":{"id":"f13ae335-f411-488f-a725-a689c4bb449c","username":"Siobhan","avatar":"c3341c41-cd70-4669-af63-0269d85339ab.jpeg"}},"mentions":[],"embeds":[],"poll":null,"rawContent":"0:56"},{"id":2499771,"content":"0:40","originalContent":null,"files":[{"id":121750,"url":"9669a209-5cbd-4ef7-a66f-f0c299fb0e0e.mp4","mimeType":"audio/mp4","duration":40.19166666666667,"waveform":[0,198,253,229,104,182,168,107,198,221,154,19,205,174,149,124,179,194,0,98,204,160,179,238,162,116,231,143,0,173,167,160,110,209,196,249,211,255,172,252,154,177,253,131,117,171,146,146,0,174,60,246,250,249,231,137,104,253,253,74,0,162,197,0],"captions":{"status":"done","segments":[{"end":4.12,"text":"En plus de ça, ce qui est bien ridicule, c'est que même Pierre,","start":0},{"end":9.16,"text":"quand il a renié trois fois votre soi-disant Jésus,","start":4.8399997},{"end":11.16,"text":"après ça, il a pleuré.","start":9.66},{"end":15.5,"text":"Après ça, il a pleuré, alors que lui, il a menti pour quoi ?","start":12.059999},{"end":19.64,"text":"Pour ne pas se faire tuer, parce qu'il avait peur pour sa vie,","start":15.5},{"end":21.16,"text":"mais même après ça, il a pleuré.","start":19.699999},{"end":23.34,"text":"Et là, tu me parles de...","start":21.88},{"end":26,"text":"Non, il y a un contexte, pourquoi Jésus a fait semblant,","start":23.34},{"end":29.98,"text":"c'était pour voir la sincérité de ceux qui le suivaient.","start":26},{"end":31.2,"text":"mais","start":30},{"end":34.14,"text":"ça tu peux aller raconter ça","start":31.2},{"end":35.5,"text":"à quelqu'un d'autre mais","start":34.14},{"end":37.02,"text":"moi ça passe pas","start":35.5},{"end":40.02,"text":"moi ça passe pas","start":37.02}]}}],"villageId":"village","topic":{"id":142700,"title":"Jésus est un menteur selon la bible ","slug":"jesus-est-un-menteur-selon-la-bible","messagesCount":39,"villageId":"village"},"user":{"id":"f61cd4a9-29d5-4734-9152-a7248ae3ec2d","username":"Epique","avatar":"009098fc-27c9-4195-8fff-bb55de9e2e7f.jpeg","villages_members":[{"userId":"f61cd4a9-29d5-4734-9152-a7248ae3ec2d","villageId":"village","points":10907,"kickedUntil":"2026-07-19T14:21:26.529Z","disabled":false,"emoji":{"code":"izan","url":"https://pub-edb0c2460d754c5eb19e4f23b232496e.r2.dev/622baad6-add0-4456-add5-0640226724eb.gif","surrogates":":village_izan_1785532798878:"}}],"groups_members":[{"group":{"id":429,"name":"Egypte Ancestrale","icon":"f66a98e1-62ff-4264-9e5a-56c04cf94f6f.jpeg"}}]},"reactions":[],"createdAt":"2026-10-16T11:25:35.638Z","updatedAt":null,"deleted":false,"first":false,"updater":null,"repliedMessageId":null,"repliedMessage":null,"mentions":[],"embeds":[],"poll":null,"rawContent":"0:40"},{"id":2499772,"content":"Il ne faut pas s'arrêter aux mots, il faut en comprendre le sens. Et c'est pareil avec l'intention.

Est-ce que Jésus avait l'intention de duper ?
Non. Il sondait simplement si son enseignement touchait le cœur des gens qui le suivaient et si ils n'étaient pas hypocrites. Au contraire c'est plutôt signe de son intelligence et il ne faisait de mal à personne.

La question du mensonge et de la vérité est assez analogue à la question du bien et du mal.

Tout dépend du contexte et les gens à l'esprit rigide généralement ont beaucoup de mal à vivre avec souplesse et à comprendre l'esprit qui anime les actes.

Deux mêmes actions n'ont pas le même sens car ils n'ont pas le même contexte, et par conséquent la même intention

Une action ne peut être isolée sans dégâts pour sa compréhension
","originalContent":null,"files":[],"villageId":"village","topic":{"id":142700,"title":"Jésus est un menteur selon la bible ","slug":"jesus-est-un-menteur-selon-la-bible","messagesCount":39,"villageId":"village"},"user":{"id":"f13ae335-f411-488f-a725-a689c4bb449c","username":"Siobhan","avatar":"c3341c41-cd70-4669-af63-0269d85339ab.jpeg","villages_members":[{"userId":"f13ae335-f411-488f-a725-a689c4bb449c","villageId":"village","points":1175,"kickedUntil":null,"disabled":false,"emoji":null}],"groups_members":[]},"reactions":[],"createdAt":"2026-10-16T11:26:22.659Z","updatedAt":null,"deleted":false,"first":false,"updater":null,"repliedMessageId":null,"repliedMessage":null,"mentions":[],"embeds":[],"poll":null,"rawContent":"Il ne faut pas s'arrêter aux mots, il faut en comprendre le sens. Et c'est pareil avec l'intention.

Est-ce que Jésus avait l'intention de duper ?
Non. Il sondait simplement si son enseignement touchait le cœur des gens qui le suivaient et si ils n'étaient pas hypocrites. Au contraire c'est plutôt signe de son intelligence et il ne faisait de mal à personne.

La question du mensonge et de la vérité est assez analogue à la question du bien et du mal.

Tout dépend du contexte et les gens à l'esprit rigide généralement ont beaucoup de mal à vivre avec souplesse et à comprendre l'esprit qui anime les actes.

Deux mêmes actions n'ont pas le même sens car ils n'ont pas le même contexte, et par conséquent la même intention

Une action ne peut être isolée sans dégâts pour sa compréhension
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